It may happen sooner, but that would depend on his ability to translate momentum into the shot, so either he’s going to gain some mass and/or translate some of his speed from sprinter into the shot ring. Mortac’s throwing 30′ from PP, but it might take some time (2 years possibly more) for him to throw 40′ with a 16lb shot. A decently good sprinter the D3 level probably can throw over 40′ feet with the shot, but it’s going to take work. That’s the middle range of HS throwers and they struggle when moving to heavier shots in college more than the 55-65′ HS throwers.Īs for the sprinters and jumpers argument it’s irrelevant. I wouldn’t be saying a D3 conference with not so great throwing results 40′ with 16lb shots is lagging behind anything but 48′ 12lb shot throwers from HS. That just means they have very little talent and obviously not good coaching (in the cases I’ve seen). I know people who have sprinted since middle school and still runs 11.8-11.9 personal best or long jump 18′.
They’re “full time throwers?” How do you define that exactly? What loosely describes the not best in the weakest conference of a division that lags behind the high school level when talking about the top? I know plenty of “full time” jumpers and sprinters who suck.
30′ from PP is probably 33-36′ depending on your glide and your ability to control the shot in the glide and from block to release. The purpose of the glide or the rotational approach is to essentially reducing the weight of shot with acceleration and providing momentum to shot through the product of mass and speed. An improper glide can actually hinder a throw where there is actual deceleration occuring requiring greater strength to overcome the shot. An effective release of the shot would be with a fully extended arm with shot coming off the finger tips and not the palm of the hand in suitable trajectory. Some of the considerations don’t deal with power per se which is an important attribute, but the strength to control the shot trajectory from block to release as well as lever system of the arms extend. According to myself and likely many other coaches the shot put while not the most technical of the throws especially with the glide and definitely not from the power position is still a different animal and for someone who doesn’t have a lot of weight it requires a great deal of speed to produce the momentum necessary to produce a quality shot attempt. How hard is it to throw 40′? Meaning, what physical capabilities are required and how hard is it to learn the glide with decent proficiency? How much does a glide “approach” add to a power position throw? Shot put has always fascinated me especially now because our college conference is super weak (33′ girls and 40′ guys medaling).Īccording to Davan pretty easy, see the decathlete thread in mike’s blog. I was throwing shot randomly today for warmup and I threw like 30′ from a stand. ThrowsLab) and their children in Clayton.Random question. John currently lives with his wife Carol (Mrs. Over the past 7 years his athletes have won 2 Junior Olympic National Titles, achieved two top 5 finishes at the USATF Junior Outdoor Championships, has had 5 podium finishes at state, won 58 discus and shot put titles, broke a 42 year old NCS section record in Discus (205’ 7”), and 9 school records. In 2011 he became a full-time coach and currently coaches Track at Diablo Valley College. He was a two-sport athlete in high school (Football & Track) and played his college football at Santa Clara University and UCLA.
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